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Topic: forcing the plaintiff to come forward (if Motion to Dismiss is denied)

Created on: 12/30/16 02:21 PM

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B3


Joined: 12/23/16

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forcing the plaintiff to come forward (if Motion to Dismiss is denied)
12/30/16 2:21 PM

Is there some kind of motion to make someone produce the complaint to the defendant, so that it can be examined in black and white where it says who is complaining? (as opposed to simply being told verbally to appear on a certain date -- or else -- and given cryptic code numbers and cause IDs)

In addition to a Motion to Dismiss for Defective Service of Process, which might be summarily denied by a lazy/crotchety judge, I would think there could also be some Motion to Require the Identification of Plaintiff or something.

Would that be within the scope of a Motion for More Definite Statement, maybe?

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B3


Joined: 12/23/16

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RE: forcing the plaintiff to come forward (if Motion to Dismiss is denied)
01/21/17 5:32 PM

Bump.

I have no idea how to find this information on my own, or how to even begin... otherwise, I wouldn't be posting here.

Anyone?

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JURISDICTIONARY


Joined: 11/23/13

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RE: forcing the plaintiff to come forward (if Motion to Dismiss is denied)
01/22/17 2:24 PM

Why not try a Motion to Compel? Perhaps you are making all this far more complicated than it really is - which is what my profession wants you to do so you will be required to hire one of them at $400 or more per hour, instead of studying ALL of my course and learning how to do it yourself.

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E.2


Joined: 06/08/17

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RE: forcing the plaintiff to come forward (if Motion to Dismiss is denied)
06/09/17 1:23 PM

If there is no flesh and blood plaintiff you are in admiralty not common law. You're in admiralty because of some sort of contract either written or an adhesion contract. So its usually some sort
of gov. service administration (GSA) coming at you either local, state or fed. Only way you can deal with it is to demand to see the contract and deny there is one and/or question their complaint to death, when you know they cant answer under penalty of perjury in court on witness stand, you got them. No contract, no plaintiff, no witness with first hand knowledge, attorney cant witness for their clients, but they do all the time, judge lets them, he's in
on it. Boyd V. U.S. says judge is to be mindful of violations of rights and step-in to prevent. Reason they don't is because they don't know what they are either. Only higher courts know these things and are better judges if their is such things, they still wear black dresses too. Now knowing this, don't enter into contract with any GSA, Scriptures (law) say; don't make any contracts with heathens (babylon) we are to come out of babylon not get in bed. Takes guts to go back under the common law here's the reason: We are not promised this world, but the world to come and eternal life, we are to deny ourselves for our greater good, most don't want anything to do with austerity measures, so they will go over to babylon and sign on and pile up junk they don't need. Here's also the difference, if you sign on you got the good life for about 10 more years, or until you get 70 +/- vs. eternity. A day in eternity is when a humming bird sharpens his beak on a piece of granite stone 1 mile long, 1 mile wide, and 1 mile high; when the stone is all worn away from sharpening that's a day in eternity. Our choice, never forced.

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E.2


Joined: 06/08/17

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RE: forcing the plaintiff to come forward (if Motion to Dismiss is denied)
06/09/17 1:32 PM

Another thing you can do on these admiralty cases is file motion under Rule 17(a) for real party in interest, Plaintiff has to do whats called ratification of commencement usually under oath, that should flush the plaintiff out, but judge again will usually step in and deny it because no plaintiff can file a reply. Why? There ain't none!

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