I Want to put an idea out here and see what every one else has to say.I find that whenever I try to give the benefit of the doubt be fair not attack unless it is fair by the rules I leave myself open for attack.I don't really want to feel like I have to convince the judge of my good intentions as a pro se litigant.I have had judges ask by what authority I am relying on.As if I where ready to talk about the fringe on the flag or some other foolish defense.I have always relied on only the rules of the court, rules of procedure rules of appeal.In other words the correct rules and yet I have to play there game.I believe in the rule of law.The problem is they think it applies only to me.I would like to hear how other have dealt with this problem in a good way as my response is usually way to close to the truth.By the inalienable rights granted me by God or if you don't believe in God then by nature. The united states constitution my state constitution and the rules created by my state supreme court.Never seems to be enough .What do You all think?Anyway I would really like to hear from You all as to what your opinions are.
Hope to hear from you.
Tom

Hello Tom,
It seems that most people here are in Civil court. My only experience has been Criminal court only.
Specifically, traffic court. In my few cases with the State bringing traffic charges against me, the judge would attempt to have me stand as the surety for the Stramineus Homo. I know people discount the idea of the Strawman.
But in each time I thwarted the judge’s attempts, he became agitated. Some people have stated that at least traffic cases, the court is acting under Admiralty. And I have taken this position before filing my documents.

From what I read from others outside of Dr. Graves teachings, you must bring the law into the courtroom that you want the judge to act under. And I have done this by placing my status on the record in all my documents. The judge seemed to accept me placing my status on the record to
grant the relief I sought. I don’t know this for a fact. I can only comment on the results. The following is only my opinion.

I have not had to take more drastic measures so far. But, here are the next actions I would take:

1. Have the judge place on the record his constitutional
“oath of office”. In my readings this would nullify his attempts to “practice law from behind the bench”. As an Article III Constitutional judge, he should only act as a mediator between the parties. Force the judge to place is oath on the record! And take judicial notice of his oath. You may get a copy of his oath from the clerk of the court.
2. Give him a warning of Baratry, if he should forget his role as mediator.
3. Ask the judge to recuse himself by reason of prejudice, if he ignores your Barratry warnings.

In my Annotated Code of Maryland Rules Appendix are sections for; Lawyers’ Rules of Professional Conduct, and Rules For Judicial Conduct. Read your State’s Rules for potential answers to what you believe is Misconduct.

Hello Jerome
Guess I was just venting.Some times it just seems pro se litigant's don't get any respect from the court system.But I was also seeing if any one out there has come up with a good way to deal with the situation.It doesn't seem to matter if You win or not,Just a lack of respect.Court clerks who treat attorneys like they can do no wrong and then treat the pro se as if we don't have a right to be in their court.They say they cant practice law like that its some kind of mantra that protects them from doing their job nobody wants wants them to practice law just answer simple procedural questions,such as does the judge want a bench copy or not.They don't seem to get the point that the law is there for everyone.Anyway enough of that.
Jerome its my opinion only but I have seen people go in to court with the defense that they are not corporate citizens and it didn't work out to well for them.that is in criminal court as well as civil court.Here in wa.state they can be either civil or criminal depending on if the offense is misdemeanor or infraction.
Some times I have seen the judge be patient with them and at other times I have seen them be taken next store to the county jail for contempt.Not trying to keep you from doing what You feel is right for you. But be careful.I myself have read many of the sites on the web but as I researched them deeper I found many inconsistencies

and old overruled case law mixed together.Interesting but not some thing I would go into court with.
I would like to hear what the results were.
Well that's all for now.Hope to hear from You.
Tom

Tom,

I can understand the need to vent. As I stated in my 1st response to you, I was only expressing my opinion based on my "actual experience" with the courts and governments.

And in each case I have yet to lose. You already stated that you are aware of other attempts of addressing the courts that is not taught in this setting. I can go off-forum with you on the details of my approach. And why I believe they have been effective. And I can validate everyone of my premises with the governments own codes, statutes, and regulations!

Last night I actually had a confrontation with 6 police officers who wanted to gain entry into my house to search for a robber in the neighborhood. And in the end I was victorious.
They never gained entry and I preserved my rights over this attempted government intrusion. I used both knowledge I gained from Dr. Graves teachings, along with my knowledge of the corporate government and contract law.

I'm presently preparing for two conformations with the City
over property "code violations" and new legislation for property owners. I'm awaiting their reply to my counter offers.

I will send you my personal email if you are curious about the details.
And again...I'm only expressing "my opinion" based on my personal successes. Good Luck!
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I realize that this is an old post. However, I think I'd like to comment on the actions of the court, anyway. I got a ticket for crossing a white line on a FWY exit. Although I had an explanation as my son exclaimed, get over.. coupled with very rude California drivers - I was not allowed to give reason to the judge. I was told that guilty with a valid reason was expressed by claiming "no-contest."

Once in the court and forced to choose, the judge denied an explanation - offered traffic school to remedy the situation.
I paid the court for a traffic school option.
I went to traffic school in a timely manner.
I passed.
The school submitted the compliance..
I discovered over a year later that the court recorded DL#/ failure to comply w/ traffic school.
The court held private hearings subsequently.
I was not noticed of the new charge - non-compliant.
I was not noticed to appear.
The court altered my name.
The court waived constitutional rights.
The court showed appearances and changed my plea to guilty.
The court showed payment at a hearing without my presence.
The court forged my signature.
The court refuses me the ability to know exactly what occurred.
The court clerks refuse to give me a copy of the commissioners oath.
The court charged me $25.00. to file stamp their summary and any other paper.
The courts clerks, in my opinion, are just ignorant individuals with little knowledge of what they are doing and would fit in at a Burger King register.
Yesterday, the receptionist "clerk" explained to me that the entry of a specific date and action on the summary was "when they changed their system" and did not mean what it said. I replied, that is not what it says. She replied, over and over the same meaningless argument.
I asked her to tell me what she states in writing a put a stamp on it.
She refused to verify her words.
I asked her why there are three file stamps of clerks on the postcard "Convelope Minutes". Arbitrary clerks last names with dates in other places lack reason.

All of those horribles you talk about can be reviewed by a higher court if you will follow the rules and use my case-winning tactics to prove all the bad with admissible evidence. There is no substitute to litigation when you are being damaged by the corrupt practices of others, MARISA1

Thank you for answering. I am not sure what to file of all the relevant claims that your course offers. I am being denied enough information to know know which motion creates remedy to the situation. I could, (a) file a motion to discover what they conceal? -all their actions and what the judgment entered is? However, to what court; Naming who - The Court - The Commissioner? (2) (b) I could go to my divorce case and guestimate that all my troubles stem from my ex-husband and his "controls" guessing that I am under a conservatorship of some kind.. and file some kind of motion to discover way way way after the fact. (c) I could trust that at least one of my children has taken some type of action in my favor as I blindly trust.. I don't want to assume that I can handle the strong forces against me in court void of knowledge. Right now, there are very strong government forces that have denied any informative counsel to me in complete truth and honesty regarding the facts. I have this underlying feeling of confinement, due to my bank and escrow manipulations and court actions without my presence. There are many areas that leave me bewildered. What ever happened to honesty? I am only one woman alone. I need companionship, a home and financial resources. Someone is running things and it's like I am in a glass bubble with the mere illusion of freedom. Yes, complaining does nothing. I cry out for compassion and help. It appears that my family is subject to a gag order. I might be doing damage to myself to file anything without the proper knowledge. Right now, I am trying to get information from the court and I keep being denied. I was refused again at the business office of the Court to obtain an oath of office for the commissioner. I need a lawyer to help me help myself, but, most lawyers tell me they can't help me. If someone is handling my life with the premise that I cannot, they win by creating ongoing legal issues that are so overwhelmingly problematic, that my focus is not on positive living. Marisa

We are "The People" specified in terms of lawful authority to sue, stated on filings every day.

Has anyone really studied this concept fully?

It might be the invisible elephant in the room.

The State Prosecutes the People - disguised in plain site as the People.

Do we, then, sue ourselves in blind trust?

Have the people truly consented to let corrupt judges represent us as people pursuing causes against unknown people in court?

As people, do we have cause to make a claim of stolen identity or should we be compelled to change it ASAP?

Have the people truly consented to convict the innocent or deprive anyone of rights?

Do we unknowingly consent to give an unbridled corrupt force authority to harm people?

IS IT OUR DUTY TO CORRECT OUR STATUS?

I am starting to over-stand this whole misrepresentation and legalized fraud, and identity theft.

I see the whole system of law and remedy for justice as flawed - in need of renovation.

How would it be if disagreements were centered in a circular room with the parties facing one another in participation of logical debate. Could judges be surrounding the discontented parties and ruling by vote with a surrounding secondary peer level with an educated jury or voting board, with rounds of interjection by the judges and jury peers to help the people come to resolve?

Judges should take the first oath - they must pledge honorability to truth and fairness and guarantee that they are not biased or operating with a conflict of interest.
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Dear Marisa ...

In the first place, not ALL judges are "corrupt". Some are, admittedly, but not all by any means ... and by following the tactics in my course people can control the corrupt ones using the rules of court that always favor the "good guys", IF the rules are followed.

Of course no one has "consented to convict the innocent" or deprive anyone of rights, Marisa. However, we do each of us choose to remain in a country where the form of government is a Republic run by officials we the people elect by voting. Some, perhaps most, of those we elect fall on their faces, and some are downright dangerous, however that is the choice we make when we choose to remain residents of this nation of laws, a republic where each of us has liberty to enjoy the blessings of government provided we live within the law and not outside it.

Sadly, leaders and lawyers and judges are rapidly losing sight of the fundamental principles upon which all lawful republics must be constructed and preserved, SO DONATE TO AMERICAN JUSTICE FOUNDATION ® at www.AmJustFound.com to keep my work going forward for the sake of the children, please!

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